How to Turn Skeptical People Into Patients: Interview with Madeline Silva – PPP: 080
Today, I’m interviewing a new guest and we’re going to be talking about how people, and new patients, and new clients or prospective patients & clients are just not engaging with us as they used to. So back in the day, it was always like, “You know, I was referred to you as the doctor my Mom, or my Friend goes to see you” and there are no questions asked it was just sort of “I’m going to book in with you, because I got your name from someone.”. And now, people are doing a lot more investigation on their own when it comes to their health, and they’re also doing a lot more investigation on us. And, I can tell you from my own experience, I will have people that will come to me and they say “Yep, I’ve listened to all of your YouTube videos, I’ve looked at everything you’ve done online, and that’s why I decided to book this appointment” or “Yeah, I know you’re seeing my best friend, but I wanted to do a bit more research about you or other healthcare practitioners in the area before making a decision”.
I’ve even had people that interviewed me and they said: “Well, I’m going to be seeing a few other people for 15-minute consultation before I choose which practitioner I’m going to work with”. So, people are getting very very skeptical, they’re getting very weary and leary about who they’re spending their time with. So, I wanted to bring one Madeline Silva to talk about sort of the changes in the Healthcare Industry when it comes to creating more touch points with your prospective clients before they actually come into your office.
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Questions I Asked Madeline:
1. How patients are now interacting with healthcare practitioners differently with regards to this unlimited access to information online?
2. How many touch points do you think it takes for a patient to engage with you as a practitioner?
3. How to give quick wins before they become actual paying patients?
4. What to do to convince skeptical patients?
What You’ll Learn From This Episode:
1. How to convert potential patients to paying patients.
2. Importance of Social Media to get new patients.
3. Use of Facebook Live and Facebook Groups to get new potential paying patients.
4. How to convince skeptical patients
Other episodes you may enjoy:
8 Tricks to Seriously Change the Way You Run Your Biz: PPP 69
How to Own your Expertise, Build your Influence and Expand your Impact: Interview with JJ Virgin – PPP:61
Double your Sales with E-mail: Interview with Ben Settle – PPP 60
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Hello and welcome to the profitable practice podcast with me, Andrea Maxim, a naturopathic doctor turned healthpreneur, and every week I’m bringing you no-nonsense no BS actionable strategies to create a practice that is not only profitable but fully sustainable by you, if you’re an action taker like me and want to create a practice that is profitable then you’ve come to the right place.
[00:33]DR. Andrea: Hello everyone, thank you again for listening to another episode of the profitable practice podcast, again I cannot tell you how much I love having you here we are well on our way to a hundred episodes and this has become bigger than I could ever imagine and the number of you that are reaching out and telling me the value that you are receiving from the podcast and how it’s influencing you and your business is just the reason why I put this together, to begin with.
[01:05]Dr. Andrea: So, today what I’m going to do is I’m interviewing a new guest and we’re going to be talking about how people and new patients and new clients or prospective patients and clients are… you know they’re not just engaging with us as they used to. So, back in the day, it was always like, you know, I was referred to, you see the doctor, my, my mom or my friend goes to see you and there is no questions asked it was just sort of, I’m going to book in with you because I got your name from someone, and now people are doing a lot more investigation on their own when it comes to their health, they’re also a lot more investigation on us. And I can tell you from my own experience I will have people that will come to me and they’ll say “Yup, I’ve listened to all your YouTube videos, I’ve looked at everything that you’ve been doing online and that’s why I decided to book this appointment.” Or yeah I know you’re seeing my best friend but I wanted to do a little bit me-more research about you or other health care practitioners in the area before making a decision. Or I’ve even had people that interviewed me and they said well I’m going to be seeing, um… a few other people for 15-minute consultation before I choose which practitioner I’m going to work with. So, people are getting very very skeptical, they’re getting weary and leary about who they are spending their time with. So, I wanted to bring on Madeline Silva to talk about sort of the changes in the healthcare industry when it comes to creating more touchpoints with your prospective clients before they actually come into your office. Um, so I really hope that you enjoy the interview we’ll get to that in a second. Before we jump into that, I just want to let you know who has sponsored this podcast episode, it is my seven-day detox program, the seven-day detox program is tod. Today the most commonly used program by patients the most common reason for a word of mouth referrals and getting new patients and… it’s one of my best ways of bringing old patients back into my office time and time again, it is a completely done for your program, you can check it out on www.MAXIMizedBusiness.ca/7DayDetoxProgram and you can download it and implement it exactly as is at your own branding at your own flair on personality to it but it is literally ready to just drag and drop into your business and start generating more revenues. But without further due let’s jump into the interview with Madeline.
[03:42]Dr. Andrea: Hey Madeline thank you so much for coming on to the profitable practice podcast today. I can’t wait for us to get into our discussion because it’s something that I have never discussed on the show to date, but before we jump into that I would love you to… just let the listeners know who you are and why you’ve developed the business the way that you have to create or help health care practitioners around the world.
[04:11]Madeline: Yeah, thank you so much, Andrea, I was thrilled to be here, and, s-yeah, you know I kind of a unique angle because I-I started both in business and this alternative and holistic health care from my childhood, so, I literally started by putting up a tent into my parents’ front yard selling candy you know, I would buy the big bags from the grocery stores and then bring them home and itemized, you know put them out and sell them one – by – one to the neighborhood kids in, in-you know out of the tent. So, you know m-my dad was self-employed and I grew up in a small business so I need to be working when I was a 12-year old in the business and then started several businesses five businesses now from scratch shoestring budgets.
[04:53]Dr. Andrea: Good for you
[04:54]Madeline: Yeah, yeah, and I so, I love entrepreneurship I call it my art form, I love it, I’m really passionate about it, and the other big influence into my life was my Mom, so she’s a nurse but she’s a total rebel, and the, again I grew up in uh, in between Sweden and Switzerland, and uh, Switzerland is probably the original slow-footed country, and my Mom being a nurse she did not vaccinate us, she did not believe in, in, in-uh, you know antibiotics, to medications, like she was very holistic in her approach and I always joked that I could be pretty much dead in our house, if you, if you didn’t want to go to school because your Mom it was like you seemed fine to me, you’re good, you know. And, and so I got this too, to a path, just dialed into me at a very young age, and then, uh. So that’s always been my path, I always work within health care and I always build businesses, and, and so I love the [merit] a bit, and I love working with health professionals because I feel like I got to have a tiny piece of the amazing work of you guys to do on a day to day basis and the impact you have on the patients’ lives and, and it’s time that we could help back in health care.
[06:06]Dr. Andrea: Oh, yeah, I so agree and it’s, you it is so needed and that’s why I put together this podcast to bring on people just like yourself who are trying to change the conversation that people are having who aren’t being successful in this industry because you know we’re going to be getting in to this but health care these days are nothing how it was 20, 30, 40 years ago, like before it was you know the Doctor was the authority and what we said was what kind of what was taking at a face value but now with the coming age of internet and WebMD and you know online searchable platforms where people can start to core then quote diagnose themselves, we’re having to now position ourselves as the health care practitioner in a much different way and that’s why I’m so thrilled that we’re going to talk about how you know, online stuff is wonderful when it comes to marketing and getting our message out there and touching more people at a more global level but it’s also making our job a lot harder to kind of re-wire or reverse what patients are already thinking is going on with them. And we say “well, absolutely WebMD and Google say yes you definitely could have cancer with like this rush that you have,” but it’s very rarely the case, right. So can you talk about what you’ve been seeing over the past five-years even how patients are now interacting with healthcare practitioners differently with regards to this, you know unlimited access to information online.
[7:16]Madeline: Yeah, so I think there’s a couple of different ways that are really shifting, a patient-one is, is that they’re way more skeptical of when I walked into somebody’s office and take a look when we are all bombarded online with all the different messages in sales and patients as well and with fake news going on it’s hard to know, you know, what’s true, what’s not and, and I think in general people are more skeptical, so to build that relationship of getting to know somebody, that they trust you, you need to really create what I call the empowered patient journey
[08:24]Madeline: A way to actually walk patients into your practice and building that level of trust along that journey. So the chance along that time is, that in the past we’re used to be able to just somebody referred to the family member or colleague or friend and they would immediately pick up the phone and walk into your office by months.
[08:44]Madeline: And they are ready to sign up, you know, you talked to them, you seemed knowledgeable, y-you know, you’d obviously had your diploma on the wall and that was enough authority and… and knowledge and expertise for them too though, okay, yeah, I’m going to try this out, I, you know I want to do this, and these days I think it’s just much harder to convert even referrals or you do a speaking gig you know it’s harder to get people into your practice and so, what I call this one-touch marketing it is where people are like you know we’re going after speaking gig, maybe do a health fair, maybe do a patient appreciation in your office, whatever you do is one-touch things, it’s really hard to convert people or patients from potential patients into paying patients in those morals. And so how do you rarely build a relationship with a patient long before they walk into your practice that becomes key component and with 80 % of the lead can change and health concerns online like we were just talking about walking in with the folder underneath their arm already kind of cracked with what’s going on with them…
[09:51]Madeline: Very scared, right. Or, or patients just getting overwhelmed with the information that’s out there not necessarily knowing how to sort through everything that’s available online and, and so how do you connect to them in a way that, that really creates saddens. So, I, so we utilized online a lot, I recommend you to utilized online, I recommend utilizing Facebook a lot because I think it’s very accessible.
[10:18]Madeline: If you need to utilize you don’t have to be a tech-savvy and there are ways where you can do it without spending money on ads, without wasting hours in front of the computer, without having to be super tech-savvy or taking time away from your family on night and weekends and I could really work on marketing in a very strategic way around your own schedule and I’m so happy to talk with you listeners and that would be helpful.
[10:45] Dr. Andrea: And I wrote down a few notes as we were going through what you were just subscribing I think talking about the empowered patient journey is really important but one thing and it’s just so funny because over the weekend I was talking to my husband about how my business was going and he’s a landscaper so he owns his own business and he was just like yeah it can sometimes take nine times to someone to see your ad, nine visits with you, nine conversations with you for someone to actually book the job from a landscaping perspective, so I wanted to ask you the same thing you know we go out and we do this online seminars or we might do some YouTube videos, How many touchpoints do you find it takes for someone to finally say you know what, yeah I think I would like to at least engage this practitioner.
[11:31]Madeline: Yeah, so, so I think in the past where we should do direct mail marketing, that’s how old I am anyway.
[11:37]Madeline: Just like your husband was saying, I-It would take at least 10-time for somebody to get the postcard or direct mail piece, to pick up the phone they said you know one, two, three before set to respond and I think social media is the modern-day direct mailing and I think today is not just I need to see you ten or twelve times they actually need to start engaging with you and start seeing results with you before they could see the difference. And that’s the huge fair amount, but it’s not enough for them to see you on video, to see you on a summit, to see your ad, it used to be okay but not anymore, you actually need to start engaging with them much, bigger complication, and for them to start seeing the result into transformation for themselves then you can actually start to provide your expertise you can provide.
[12:30]Dr. Andrea: And so what are some ways that we would do that, so I can, I cannot be giving my bills without returning. How do we give these people quick wins before they actually become patients in our office?
[12:40]Madeline: Right, It’s a chance, right, and so, I think one of the ways that we health professional to do that is one is to start getting yourself in front of people, that’s number one so, the old days, you know, and you can do that going to meetups, I love utilizing Facebook mostly because it’s time-efficient and cost of the feature.
[12:58] Dr. Andrea: yes
[12:59]Madeline: And sometimes we do Facebook lives which I think it’s a great way of positioning of yourself online and sharing your expertise and sharing tips and health tricks to the people and another really great way to interview other health professionals, who other health uh, uh, authorities in the mass community especially if you have local a local break in the business, uh, through your interviews online on Facebook live, uh, again it exposes you, it positions as an expert with the other experts, it exposes to a much larger audience and if you’re shy and a little bit of nervous about going on live in Facebook live, then I think the interview is a really great way because it’s like this, right.
[13:33] Dr. Andrea: Right
[13:34]Madeline: Having a conversation, hanging out so it’s friendly, it’s easy and so that’s number one. Number two is to then have a called too action of really engaging with maybe a community so, like I said 80 % from adults are now looking now online searching for communities and questions and answer that could help their concerns and questions online, so creating an online community where these people can actually step in and when you are coaching them and supporting them and again we do not want to give in to too far into like a, will be a, uh, causing problems with laws of course.
[14:19] Dr. Andrea: Of course, yes
[14:21] Madeline: But, sharing tips and advice and recommendation of articles and you know what happens maybe some success stories from your own practice, so that people can start seeing the social proof of work that you’re actually doing in your office. So that’s step number two. Ah, then step number three is really engaged with the, in, in, in some way I love doing online challenges like five day online promotion.
[14:44] Dr. Andrea: Yup
[14:45] Madeline: In a way that you can really engage people that get quick results with you they get it more intimate engagement with you, and, and from there you can do a small offer, n-now what I call the tiny offer, I refer to it as you know the pink little spoon you get when you go to the ice cream parlor.
[15:03] Dr. Andrea: Right
[15:04] Madeline: And you way more likely to, you know buy the three cones with the sherry on top after you tasted it. Right.
[15:11] Dr. Andrea: Right
[15:12] Madeline: And that’s like the tiny offer, the tiny offer could be free consultation, it could be a lecture, you know, it could be, maybe lab test if that something that you are offering to your practice, so maybe some you know other diagnostic testing that you offer, as a way of it just ti get the next step with you when engaging with you in the morning pack full way, and from there then lead them in to the path of way. So, it’s a longer journey.
[15:36] Dr. Andrea: Yeah
[15:37]Madeline: But it’s an incredibly powerful way of structuring your marketing and, and also all of those one touch marketing strategy that I talked about going to speaking gigs, can now lead in…
[15:50] Dr. Andrea: Yes
[15:51]Madeline: to this group, and then the challenge, and then the tiny offer so that you now have a bucket, it’s not, as you out there, you know fishing with the line out in the wide ocean. You don’t actually have your own pond and you have a net. To bring people into your practice, so it changes to dynamic quite, you know quickly and easily.
[16:09] Dr. Andrea: I love that and it’s so simple, and, and there’s a few things that pop into my mind so as I’m listening to, to anybody I interview, I’m learning, I’m being inspired, I’m, and I am thinking of questions. So the first thing that I thought of was, what about on my website so I personally recommend all of my coaching clients have at least three different calls to action on their website like alone in the widget spa, on the right hand side that’s a ways available, so even you know with people going into our website and checking us out what are some great touch points that we can start offering their to again flow into this empowered patients journey that we speak.
[16:50] Madeline: Yeah so the number one thing would be, to get them into a community so if you have a Facebook group to get them into that community that could actually be number one call to action.
[16:57] Dr. Andrea: okay
[16:58] Madeline: Because what happens once somebody gets into your Facebook community, there is a tremendous amount of social proofing there for you, and who you are. Lots of your current patients in there, all of your raving fans in there, people who love the work that you do, which spread the tremendous amount of value and transformation from you know, your services will be in there talking about you.
[17:20] Madeline: And repeating about you, engaging with you. So instant social proof, instant credibility, and it make people also want to become part of the community and if something like that happens. I think, you know the empower patient journey I think one of the most powerful things that it does it gets people really committed to your mission and passion for the work that you do like they actually want to be part of the bigger picture of why you are doing the work that you do in the world and, and I think that people want to be part of the movement, people want to be part of something bigger than themselves.
[17:50] Dr. Andrea: Totally
[17:50] Madeline: As you provide it as well. And the, in a recent study that, I don’t know if you heard about the Happiness study that Harvard University did. Is one of the longest study done over the span of 50 years and one of the things that I found out in that study is that community in connection with other people it’s the number one way or the reason why the people actually experience happiness.
[18:16] Dr. Andrea: And I could understand that and I’ve heard that from patients that I do weight loss in my office and they say you know what if there is a way that I could talk to other people I would be much more successful in what I’m trying to achieve with you so I absolutely agree with you there and again a question that pops into my head was well what if I don’t have enough people yet to start a Facebook community, like I don’t want to have a Facebook community that’s like 10 people because it makes me look really silly, right, like I don’t have any followers, so for those people who are just starting out in business or starting out their practice or their, online business or whatever it is. What do you say to those people like creating the community is great but if I don’t have anybody in there, and if there are only like five people, you know, what do I do about that?
[19:06]Madeline: Yeah, so that’s a great question, so I think the number one thing I talk about you in Facebook lives, I mean, the reason I am a big proponent of Facebook lives is that I think it, once you have a video, people really get to know you. Right, like once they see you on video, they got to see you, your mannerism, and the way you speak, they could instant like, oh I like her or you know what was, I don’t know like I talk with a bit of accent, whatever it is right.
[19:31] Dr. Andrea: Yep
[19:32]Madeline: They set instant ability, so it’s one of the fastest ways of building credibility and, and how do people trust who you are and get to know you, so that’s why I recommend doing it and I think if you do that consistently on Facebook I would say two to three times a week.
[19:46]Madeline: And you have to not too long, three to five minutes it’s plenty and really give good cook tip, introduce yourself share who you are and you can even start just like, even if you’re a student right now and you’re thinking about starting a practice you actually document your whole journey. Your practice on Facebook live and building your community even long before you even launch your practice and then from there again introducing them into our group so you should, and I’ll just recommend that you spend at least 30-days just educating people on your expertise before you start moving into your group and really simple super low-cost way of getting them an extra boost and more extra visibility from your videos it’s just spending maybe five dollars you know for one day every time you do a Facebook live.
[20:41] Dr. Andrea: Yup
[20:42] Madeline: Boost it. And for 24-hours for the community set the perimeters around the community you know If you have a local business that you reach the people in the are. And that is a very simple way, you can reach hundreds, even thousands of people each time you do a video just doing those simple tricks.
[21:00]Dr. Andrea: I agree, and so that’s a great point that you made about the boosted post, so I did a Facebook live two-weeks ago and I made it really polarizing so I also believe you have to… you have to make videos not so mundane blah, blah, blah information like something that people are really going to take away that’s unique to how you deliver or how you educate people or something. And I boosted it, it was 25 dollars so it was a week-long and I got over 2000 views on that video so for, and I, I boosted it just to a local targeted audience, so women in my demographic and the local neighboring cities to my practices so it, it really help to grow like the people that were visiting my Facebook page and all those other things and I got a number of few people that downloaded the freebie that I was offering, so I find getting comfortable with Facebook advertising can be very scary for a lot of us but boosted post can absolutely help to drive everything online without spending you hundreds of dollars a day so I’m really glad that you brought that up. What about just if, if I’m not ready to do Facebook lives yet, I’m not ready to start a community yet but I wanna create some other downloads, some cluster action again either connected to a social media poster on my website what are some successful ones that you’ve seen with your clients that you have worked with.
[22:28]Madeline: Yes, so I just did find a 5-day challenge actually I may have to go to unknown to expert and, and not utilizing Facebook lives but just really have to position yourself as an expert on Facebook very easily by simple post and so let me walk you through, so I have a three-step Facebook’s success formula that I teach people. And I think number one is to really clarify, oh, you know who you gotta help and your messaging so I think what makes messaging and communicating out in the world so powerful is if you have that mission and that passion that common theme it’s like strung through all your messaging if you again do that popcorn uh version where you’re talking about, you know, all there’s no real theme that connects the two people kind of get lost they get lost in the sea of all the other health providers but if you can get really specific and you get really clear about who you’ll help and what you’d do to those people and, and again this is not like you don’t have to get married about this idea for forever you could try that out for 30-days and just educate people for 30-days on that theme. So that’s number one clarifying. Number two is educating, so I’ve said educating people on your expertise in that one specific area for at least 30-days and you do that by sharing posts, by you know sharing quotes maybe an article that you wrote,
[23:53]Madeline: All different kinds of ideas and I actually have a the challenge that I just did it’s over but I’m making the whole five-day challenge available to anybody who listens, it’s available to anybody here it’s, it’s a special, special, special thing for podcast listeners only so I just wanna let you guys know, so you can just take it and literally it’s like 7 – 15-minute video.
[24:17] Dr. Andrea: Awesome
[24:18]Madeline: With quick little assignment daily that you could just walk yourself through this whole process. So number two is educating and number three is to make that tiny offer right to have them do that little step. And that again, it could be a free consultation in your office. You let the people in and get them to connect with you now to have some experience with you.
[24:39]Dr. Andrea: Awesome, awesome, anything else around you know the changing the skepticism that people have now especially in the Naturopathic community we’re still bridging that gap between conventional versus alternative medicine and are you finding working with naturopaths that there are even more steps that we need to take farther, you know we’re getting a lot of backlashes now in the media with regards to people dis-crediting some of our treatment option or dis-crediting our education, so how do you, what would you suggest that we can start to do to change that mindset to again take away the skepticism and say this is valid health care option this is why should be looking into alternative health care.
[25:59]Madeline: Yes, really interesting question, so I, just like I said, I spend most of my career squarely in the alternative health care professional and so, and I actually, one thing that has changed so much with this now, in health information available to so many patients is that I think that most patients today are really ready for alternative health care and holistic health care. And they actually search, looking for it, they’re searching for it. I would say when I first started out, I, I’m working at the chiropractic office right so squarely on the other side, another lane right, of traditional or medicine and people, would oftentimes come in and said well that’s all nice and good but I need to go and to my MD and see if this is okay.
[26:18]Madeline: Right? And these days it’s almost like they come from the MD into their offices that I’m seeing with my health professionals and saying like okay they’re telling me to take, to do this take drugs, you know, they told me to do surgery, and I wanna find out all the natural solutions that I can do. How can I get more engaged with my health care, so I actually think that patient is already there for the last part.
[26:45]Madeline: I think it’s really shifting and I think to embrace that piece if that’s part of who you really are in your practice the alternative health tip. If that’s something that you really wanna embrace, I think uh, speak to it and so I think again like you were talking about having a little bit of controversy or stirring the pot a little bit, it’s not necessarily a bad thing.
[27:09] Dr. Andrea: Right
[27:10]Madeline: I think it could actually do wonders for you and remember you’re not necessarily looking for everybody to come in and see you. Right? You’re looking for your people, the people uh, that are your raving fans that love what you do, and sometimes when you get a little bit controversial or you stick on the truth sometimes you going to get people who are not necessarily aligned with your messaging and that’s okay.
[27:30] Dr. Andrea: Yeah, you don’t want them in your practice any way right?
[27:33] Madeline: Exactly, yeah.
[27:30] Dr. Andrea: So Madeline thank you so much for these and I will make that I have that link for your five-day challenge kind of download freebie in the show notes for today’s show. If people want to reach you out and ask any questions or work with you further what’s a great way of getting contact with you.
[27:33]Madeline: Yes, so we have a special website set up for you on FreedomSwitch so we make sure to share that link with you guys, I think you already have it. I’m sure you’ll make sure it’s available here on, on the podcast to people, and yeah and I think on there you’ll find basically I have four different things for you guys, [chuckles] so one they should have a really brief assessment to questions that really gives you, if you’re not really sure what to start on what you need most in your practice it really helps you to kind of get yourselves situated and what are the resources available right there so take that. Number two always you can join my Facebook group called Healthcare Heroes, I would love to have you in there we share out with you the challenges in there, we share a lot of tips and fun stuff in there and I told you I have this special E-course the five-step challenge that I just run in my Healthcare Heroes through, at the end of April available just to podcast listeners so that’s a special page for you guys. And number four if you want my support with anything and you’re stuck in your practice so you’re not really sure what the next step to was hard to focus your attention I think most of the time when I struggle in my business the way I see my clients it’s because we don’t necessarily invest on the right thing at the right time.
[29:12]Madeline: So really getting clear about what is the one thing that you need to do next to have the most impact in your practice and get the most traction. I’m happy to help you with that and if complimentary clarity call so all of that is all on that page, yeah.
[29:26]Dr. Andrea: Thank you so much and again thank you so much for your expertise and coming on to the show and I was really happy to have you and I hope people reach out and at least get that freebie download.
[29:37]Madeline: Awesome, thank you so much Andrea I really appreciated it and thank you, everyone, who is listening it’s really great.
[29:42]Dr. Andrea: Cool, thank you.
[29:46]Dr. Andrea: So there you have it guys another amazing show in the works and I really hope you go and download that freebie from Madeline about how to set up kind of that empowerment patient flow and create those challenges because they are a wonderful way to number – one gets you comfortable with stepping out to the social media space but challenges are a beautiful way to get other people that, haven’t even known about you or that weren’t sure about you just yet to also join your free challenges and hopefully become a new paying patient or patient in your business. Now if you are worried about the text side of things and sort of this sounds amazing but I have no idea how to execute this I would love to hop on a call with you just you and me for a 30-minutes strategy call. If you email me personally email@example.com or you can always reach out to me via my website or Instagram @andreamaximmd we can set up a time that works for both of us because as you know if you are an avid listener of this show it’s all about results for me, it’s all about you taking action and stopping any excuses for why you can’t do that so if you’re ready for a big kick in the butt, if you’re ready to light a big fire under your ass and getting things happening this year I want you to reach out for me firstname.lastname@example.org or as I said find me on my website MaximizedBusiness.ca or on Instagram you can direct message me there. But I just wanna again thank you all so much for constantly downloading and, and reaching out to me about how things are going in your business and how can I help you, that is the whole reason why I’m here.
I am Andrea Maxim, I am your host of THE PROFITABLE PRACTICE PODCAST and I’m out.